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Daibhid C ([personal profile] daibhidc) wrote2015-10-31 09:23 pm
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The Zygon Invasion

Woah.

First off, the obvious real world parallels. They started out seeming a bit forced, but by the end it was just, yes, the Zygon attacks work a lot like terrorism, that's just how it is, rather than "Look at the point we're making!"

And it's a tricky thing to get right. There are all sorts of potential ways an analogy like that can go horribly, horribly wrong. But we've already had the set-up of "Zygons are people, not monsters, and most of them want peace", and this gets emphasised with the Osgoods and their insistence that it doesn't matter which of them is which. (And it also works in another reference to hybrids.) So it's not "a race of terrorists", which would have been terrible, but a race with terrorists. Like Discworld dwarfs or Marvel mutants. Fair enough.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who spent the scene where the Doctor is lambasting the Zygon leaders wondering if he'd got the right girls or was just making an idiot of himself again. It turns out to be the former, of course, and when I thought about it of course he knew who they were; he didn't just think "Weird kids, must be Zygons".

I vaguely wondered if Clara had been replaced near the start, then I forgot about it, so it still came as a shock. The sheriff, on the other hand, I was pretty suspicious of all the way though.

Very disappointed to learn Harry Sullivan spent his time mixing up nerve gas, although given his own experience with Zygons, I suppose it's understandable. (Speaking of which, I suppose there's no chance the Skarasen is going to be in part 2? Presumably they've found a substitiute for its milk.)

Osgood, of course, was brilliant, as was Jac/Ros-from-Bugs. (I really hope they haven't actually killed her, although I can't see any way they haven't.)

And that cliffhanger! I'm calling it now, that's the real Kate who reported she'd been neutralised. The thing about "they're shapeshifters and could be anybody" works both ways. But I can't imagine how the Doctor's going to get out of this. (Not even an after-credits "Next Time"!) Doubtless all will be revealed next week, at the regularly scheduled time of "whenever"...
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[personal profile] pedanther 2015-11-01 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I got the implication, but if she was a friendly Zygon I don't think it makes a substantial difference, and I don't believe in the other possibility.

I don't believe she was a radical Zygon duplicate all along the way Clara was, because if she had been there would have been no need to get her out of the way by sending her to New Mexico, and no reason for the "North America secure" message to be dependent on the outcome of her encounter there. (Unless the New Mexico Zygons are a third group who are also opposed to the radical Zygons, and her call at the end was really reporting that she'd successfully completed her mission to wipe them out. But I really don't think that's where the story's going.)

That leaves the possibility that the Kate in this episode was a friendly Zygon like Zygon Osgood, but if that's the case we're still faced with the same questions we were asking about Human Kate: Has she been replaced by a radical Zygon at the end? If she hasn't, how did she know what a radical Zygon should say?
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[personal profile] sabremeister 2015-11-04 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"Unit neutralised" sounds like a pretty standard thing to say about having encountered a potential threat, then rendering it unable to threaten. Presumably Kate introduced herself to the sheriff at some point to establish authority, and if there was a need to report in, then that presumably meant that the Zygon had reported that someone was there in the first place. "UNIT neutralised" is also, therefore, a reasonable assumption to make about what needs to be said in this case.