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Daibhid C ([personal profile] daibhidc) wrote2012-01-05 03:25 pm
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Me and my friend the telepathic dog went for a walk through the post-apocalyptic wasteland...

The following appeared in this month's Ansible:

AS OTHERS SEE US. An unusual analysis of sf trends: 'One way you can
describe the collapse of the idea of the future is the collapse of
science fiction. Now it's either about technology that doesn't work or
about technology that's used in bad ways. The anthology of the top
twenty-five sci-fi stories in 1970 was, like, "Me and my friend the
robot went for a walk on the moon," and in 2008 it was, like, "The
galaxy is run by a fundamentalist Islamic confederacy and there are
people who are hunting planets and killing them for fun."' (PayPal
cofounder Peter Thiel, profiled in _The New Yorker_, 28 November 2011)


Naturally, because it's the sort of thing I do, it occured to me to look up the "anthology of the top
sci-fi stories in 1970", which I'm taking as being The World's Best Science Fiction: 1970, even though there are only thirteen stories in it. I'm not sure these stories entirely fit Thiel's paradigm...

[identity profile] rhiannon-s.livejournal.com 2012-01-05 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, the paradigm right now is "The galxay is run by an all seeing military autocracy, who like to tell us about the evil-stand in for-Islam-menace it is protecting us from because they are evulz, and personal freedom is how the evil-SIFI-menace will destroy us" because the military is always right. It's equally split between the writers who fervently believe that is right and we should be allowed to commit horrendous warcrimes and Judge Dredd style antics, and those who are rightly sending up the whole thing as bullshit.

Actual theocratic menaces were a few years ago.
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[personal profile] scarfman 2012-01-05 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)

I think his overall point is a valid one though. Science fiction has gone mainstream, and mainstream is about contemporary tensions instead of about sense of wonder.